I discussed this very point with a good friend today, he is in a similar posistion(sort off) to you , he is out and has been for 3 years, his wife her family et al, are in, our concensus was if they are happy who are we, to point out what we already know. If it going to make them happier, lets act, if it results in compromising their happiness, whats the point ? seems to me we have to approach this on a case by case basis. I have a friend who has at last found love and a degree hope with a JW, there is no way im going to point out what i know to him, whats the point ? ultimately, you believe one lot of shit or another, load of shit. If people are genuinely happy being JW,s , just leave them to it. live and let live.
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Now my marriage vow is directly connected to remaining a witness...
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i recently informed my wife of 25 years (the love of my life) that i just cannot go on any longer with this facade.
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JWs Not Allowed to Post on Websites?
by StandFirm inthis seems to be a favorite topic to bring up to any witnesses who post on any website where there are any opposers, either here or topix or anywhere.. so, here is the one and only place i will be discussing it.
who can prove that witnesses are specifically told not to post on websites about them?.
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hi standfirm, I did try to warn you you would quickly find yourself out of your depth, its not a poor reflection on you however, if you rely on recieving the truth from from WTS you would have no chance,to defend them or yourself, because most of what you believe is predicated on lies, we just found about it a bit earlier, in my case 6weeks ago. please do me a favour and watch a video that was posted here about a week ago, thanks. Kathryn Schulz, ON BEING WRONG , at TED. COM
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Introducing Myself
by StandFirm inhello to jwn!
this is standfirm.
i mainly post on the topix jehovah's witness forum, but i decided to give it a try over here also.
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Well done standfirm, you came back, I hope you find whatever your after, and hope you leave here happy .
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More details of the bible students blending into Rutherford's empire
by Terry incharlie taze russell had money, good looks, privately tutored education and a lot of personal charisma.
from his devout mother he got a healthy dose of hellfire and come to jesus instruction.
the family was presbyterian in a time when central authority was viewed with deep suspicion.
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A great piece of work and analysis, thoroughly enjoyable, it not a trifle disconerting. I realise I left my brain in a box 20 years ago,
In many ways, it was simpler to be spoon fed by the Tower, its just the mind numbing reality, it is/ was a con , and the dawning of the thought, I am back at square one, at age 49 !!!
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Famliy Woes
by exjwza inso my story, just like everyone elses that has left, is one of confusion , hurt, and lots of mixed emotions, .
i was raised a witness, and at the age of 20ish bent to pressure from the elders and got baptised, my heart was never in it, not even as a child, it was more jsut the motions of it, because thats what you were taught your whole life to do.
about a year after being baptised, i met a a young lady that opened my eyes, while she wasnt in my life long, (dont blame her, i had a lot to deal with , family, elders, etc) she was my saving grace, in the "truth" i was depressive, lonely, :( .
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Hey Beenthere Every now and again, I see a post that feels like a punch in the guts, loosing your best friend, soul mate and wife, and still no bitterness toward her, just a deep sense of loss, that hurts me, ugh, few words spoken,please dont take take this the wrong way but I wish i had not read that, sometime words fail me
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my mind is screwed has anyone ever felt like this?
by deservingone26 inmy mind is screwed.
i am so messed up and there seems to be nothing i can do i can try to be as positive as i want but it always comes right back to this!
right back to me hating myself.
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Hey man, that could be me your describing, or for that matter any number of people your describing, and not just on this forum.You are suffering from deppression. Its my guess your self medicating with alcohol, and to a lesser extent food, as you are already aware this isnt working, and it cant work. Put simply you have an imbalance with the chemicals(NURO TRANSMITERS) in your brain, and no amount of food and alcohol, can alter that fact, you can mask it to an extent, with booze, but you need to restore that imbalance,as i mentoined above.
Im not a GP but I suffer from deppression, and have done masses of research.I have been trapped in the vicious cycle you have described above, My suggestion to you is you probably need an SSRI, type drug to elevate your levels of seretonin,(the feel good drug) in your brain.Though you should see your GP, about this, Fluoxitine also known as PROZAC.
Another big help, will be adopting a healthier lifestyle, bin the junk food, try to reduce your alcohol consumption, and start EXERCISING, loosing a little bit of beef, and regaining control of your eating habbits, will boost your self esteem.
Take steps now, the longer you leave it the more you will suffer, If I can be of any further help dont hesitate to get in touch,All the best.
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Hey my north american Bros you got him, no need for any divisions, that could have been a black navy seal that put 2 through his brain,sorry im not from USA, you got the SOB, and obama rocks, USA rocks !
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what was the best gig you ever attended and why ?
by the max inmy own was ac/dc at the hamersmith odoen london 1980, the highway to hell tour with bonn scott, they were at their creative peak with their best line up with there best album, you had to be there to understand !!
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oh ok ,physical Graffiti, with the sliding windows, and the RAVEN by the Stranglers(FIRST EVER 3D COVER, 1979) THE MAX
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AUGUST 1, 2007 - "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will." - Barack Obama
by SixofNine inaugust 1, 2007 - "if we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and president musharraf won't act, we will.
" - barack obamaremember how much flack he got for saying that?.
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why do you pander to this little JW CREEP, What the F__k is his problem ? He wants to attack but cant cope with the consequences ?
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AUGUST 1, 2007 - "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will." - Barack Obama
by SixofNine inaugust 1, 2007 - "if we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and president musharraf won't act, we will.
" - barack obamaremember how much flack he got for saying that?.
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because my little effiminate friend, i spent my time hunting terrorists, while you were peddeling magazines that nobody wants to read, your a sad sack muslim apologist, just f--k 0-- and die 69 you would have been a fuck where ever you were,